We'd be better off with Ken Dodd running our finances!

  I received the Freedom of Information request from the Debt Management Office of the government, and it makes me think that the senior officers of tthe finance department should be done away with, we'd be better off with Ken Dodd running our finances!

  Check out the documents below to see just how well the finance department did when over the space of a year they invested a total of £708 million!

United Kingdom Debt Management Office		Eastcheap Court 11 Philpot Lane London EC3M 8UD Tel: 0845 357 6259 Email:recordsmanagementservice@dmo.gsi.gov.uk
		2nd March 2011 FOI20110209
response to FOI Request

Dear Mr Pond,

I am writing in response to your email dated 9^th February 2011 requesting information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.  Our response is below.

1. All deposits made by Stoke-on-Trent City Council that made up the £708,511,000 investment, the dates of those deposits and the duration of these deposits.

Please see Sheet 1 of the attached document.

2. The total interest earned on the £708,511,000 investment.

The total interest earned on this investment was £48,137.54.

3. Can you please clarify whether the £25.26 million currently in the account was part of the £708 million or whether it was an entirely separate investment

The £25.26m that was the total amount of outstanding deposits as at 14^th December 2010 is part of the cumulative sum mentioned above.

4. Please supply a list of all withdrawals since 5^th February 2009 to the current date.

Sheet 2 of the attached spreadsheet lists all deposits made by Stoke-on-Trent from their initial deposit on 5^th February 2009 to 9^th February 2011 (the date of the FOI request).

Yours sincerely,

Information Manager.

  The following figures are the rate of interest paid, how much was put in, the date the money went in and the date it came out, and finally the amount of interest it earned. Take a look at the top row, the best part of £11 million invested overnight, and all we get is £73.84!!

  The government will take all the pooled money from the different councils that invest in the DMO, invest it in one of the high street banks that since the bailout we are major shareholders in, and give the councils one sixth of the interest earned!

  The real choker about this is the fact that on an investment total of £708 million, all we get is £48 thousand!

Rate	.......Deposit	........Trade ...........Date.	..........Maturity .............Date	.............Interest
0.25.......	£10,780,000.00	4 Jan 10	5 Jan 10	£73.84
0.25.......	£1,000,000.00	6 Jan 10	8 Jan 10	£13.70
0.25........	£1,760,000.00	6 Jan 10	12 Jan 10	£72.33
0.25........	£638,000.00	8 Jan 10	13 Jan 10	£21.85
0.25........	£727,000.00	11 Jan 10	13 Jan 10	£9.96
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	15 Jan 10	18 Jan 10	£20.55
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	15 Jan 10	19 Jan 10	£27.40
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	15 Jan 10	20 Jan 10	£34.25
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	15 Jan 10	21 Jan 10	£41.10
0.25........	£1,200,000.00	15 Jan 10	22 Jan 10	£57.53
0.25........	£1,122,000.00	15 Jan 10	25 Jan 10	£76.85
0.25........	£880,000.00	18 Jan 10	25 Jan 10	£42.19
0.25........	£2,400,000.00	8 Feb 10	9 Feb 10	£16.44
0.25........	£2,424,000.00	8 Feb 10	10 Feb 10	£33.21
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	15 Feb 10	17 Feb 10	£13.70
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	15 Feb 10	18 Feb 10	£20.55
0.25........	£4,347,000.00	15 Feb 10	22 Feb 10	£208.42
0.25........	£2,500,000.00	16 Feb 10	17 Feb 10	£17.12
0.25........	£1,217,000.00	16 Feb 10	24 Feb 10	£66.68
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	16 Feb 10	23 Feb 10	£47.95
0.25........	£3,615,000.00	19 Feb 10	24 Feb 10	£123.80
0.25........	£863,000.00	23 Feb 10	2 Mar 10	£41.38
0.25........	£921,000.00	25 Feb 10	4 Mar 10	£44.16
0.25........	£2,351,000.00	1 Mar 10	2 Mar 10	£16.10
0.25........	£1,872,000.00	2 Mar 10	4 Mar 10	£25.64
0.25........	£2,150,000.00	15 Mar 10	18 Mar 10	£44.18
0.25........	£1,354,000.00	16 Mar 10	18 Mar 10	£18.55
0.25........	£5,972,000.00	19 Mar 10	22 Mar 10	£122.71
0.25........	£5,168,000.00	23 Mar 10	24 Mar 10	£35.40
0.25........	£4,161,000.00	15 Apr 10	16 Apr 10	£28.50
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	15 Apr 10	20 Apr 10	£68.49
0.25........	£1,500,000.00	15 Apr 10	21 Apr 10	£61.64
0.25........	£6,000,000.00	15 Apr 10	23 Apr 10	£328.77
0.25........	£3,000,000.00	16 Apr 10	19 Apr 10	£61.64
0.25........	£1,344,000.00	16 Apr 10	23 Apr 10	£64.44
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	22 Apr 10	23 Apr 10	£6.85
0.25........	£3,119,000.00	22 Apr 10	28 Apr 10	£128.18
0.25........	£2,180,000.00	29 Apr 10	30 Apr 10	£14.93
0.25........	£3,934,000.00	29 Apr 10	4 May 10	£134.73
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	29 Apr 10	7 May 10	£54.79
0.25........	£2,110,000.00	30 Apr 10	10 May 10	£144.52
0.25........	£2,500,000.00	4 May 10	21 May 10	£291.10
0.25........	£1,500,000.00	4 May 10	19 May 10	£154.11
0.25........	£2,525,000.00	4 May 10	18 May 10	£242.12
0.25........	£7,000,000.00	5 May 10	21 May 10	£767.12
0.25........	£7,000,000.00	5 May 10	24 May 10	£910.96
0.25........	£2,410,000.00	5 May 10	26 May 10	£346.64
0.25........	£1,232,000.00	10 May 10	27 May 10	£143.45
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	11 May 10	12 May 10	£6.85
0.25........	£1,469,000.00	11 May 10	20 May 10	£90.55
0.25........	£3,000,000.00	11 May 10	27 May 10	£328.77
0.25........	£1,346,000.00	13 May 10	24 May 10	£101.41
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	14 May 10	26 May 10	£82.19
0.25........	£4,516,000.00	14 May 10	27 May 10	£402.11
0.25........	£6,809,000.00	17 May 10	28 May 10	£513.01
0.25........	£1,875,000.00	18 May 10	4 Jun 10	£218.32
0.25........	.£3,500,000.00	20 May 10	21 May 10	£23.97
0.25........	£3,120,000.00	20 May 10	4 Jun 10	£320.55
0.25........	.£1,134,000.00	24 May 10	4 Jun 10	£85.44
0.25........	£791,000.00	26 May 10	4 Jun 10	£48.76
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	27 May 10	8 Jun 10	£164.38
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	27 May 10	9 Jun 10	£89.04
0.25........	£2,920,000.00	27 May 10	11 Jun 10	£300.00
0.25........	£2,458,000.00	28 May 10	16 Jun 10	£319.88
0.25........	£4,000,000.00	28 May 10	17 Jun 10	£547.95
0.25........	£5,000,000.00	28 May 10	18 Jun 10	£719.18
0.25........	£1,445,000.00	1 Jun 10	21 Jun 10	£197.95
0.25........	£665,000.00	2 Jun 10	21 Jun 10	£86.54
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	3 Jun 10	21 Jun 10	£246.58
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	3 Jun 10	22 Jun 10	£260.27
0.25....	£1,357,000.00	3 Jun 10	23 Jun 10	£185.89
0.25........	£7,000,000.00	3 Jun 10	24 Jun 10	£1,006.85
0.25........	£1,127,000.00	4 Jun 10	7 Jun 10	£23.16
0.25........	£3,000,000.00	4 Jun 10	8 Jun 10	£82.19
0.25........	£935,000.00	7 Jun 10	16 Jun 10	£57.64
0.25........	£4,686,000.00	8 Jun 10	25 Jun 10	£545.63
0.25........	£1,211,000.00	9 Jun 10	10 Jun 10	£8.29
0.25........	£1,500,000.00	10 Jun 10	24 Jun 10	£143.84
0.25........	£1,677,000.00	10 Jun 10	25 Jun 10	£172.29
0.25........	£2,193,000.00	11 Jun 10	29 Jun 10	£270.37
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	15 Jun 10	16 Jun 10	£6.85
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	15 Jun 10	28 Jun 10	£178.08
0.25........	£3,000,000.00	15 Jun 10	29 Jun 10	£287.67
0.25........	£9,247,000.00	15 Jun 10	2 Jul 10	£1,076.71
0.25........	£1,596,000.00	21 Jun 10	5 Jul 10	£153.04
0.25........	£719,000.00	22 Jun 10	30 Jun 10	£39.40
0.25........	£3,924,000.00	24 Jun 10	6 Jul 10	£322.52
0.25........	£763,000.00	25 Jun 10	5 Jul 10	£52.26
0.25........	£1,561,000.00	28 Jun 10	8 Jul 10	£106.92
0.25........	£5,955,000.00	29 Jun 10	9 Jul 10	£407.88
0.25........	£1,339,000.00	30 Jun 10	8 Jul 10	£73.37
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	1 Jul 10	13 Jul 10	£164.38
0.25........	£5,602,000.00	1 Jul 10	16 Jul 10	£575.55
0.25........	£5,000,000.00	2 Jul 10	5 Jul 10	£102.74
0.25........	£3,821,000.00	2 Jul 10	7 Jul 10	£130.86
0.25........	£3,000,000.00	5 Jul 10	6 Jul 10	£20.55
0.25........	£3,150,000.00	5 Jul 10	7 Jul 10	£43.15
0.25........	£2,970,000.00	6 Jul 10	12 Jul 10	£122.05
0.25........	£6,212,000.00	7 Jul 10	19 Jul 10	£510.58
0.25........	£2,290,000.00	8 Jul 10	20 Jul 10	£188.22
0.25........	£5,312,000.00	9 Jul 10	21 Jul 10	£436.60
0.25........	£3,409,000.00	12 Jul 10	21 Jul 10	£210.14
0.25........	£1,828,000.00	14 Jul 10	19 Jul 10	£62.60
0.25........	£8,080,000.00	15 Jul 10	23 Jul 10	£442.74
0.25........	£3,000,000.00	15 Jul 10	28 Jul 10	£267.12
0.25........	£648,000.00	16 Jul 10	27 Jul 10	£48.82
0.25........	£3,922,000.00	19 Jul 10	29 Jul 10	£268.63
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	20 Jul 10	23 Jul 10	£41.10
0.25........	£2,560,000.00	20 Jul 10	26 Jul 10	£105.21
0.25........	£2,222,000.00	21 Jul 10	22 Jul 10	£15.22
0.25........	£3,841,000.00	23 Jul 10	26 Jul 10	£78.92
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	26 Jul 10	27 Jul 10	£6.85
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	26 Jul 10	28 Jul 10	£13.70
0.25........	,£4,863,000.00	26 Jul 10	30 Jul 10	£133.23
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	28 Jul 10	2 Aug 10	£68.49
0.25........	£2,624,000.00	28 Jul 10	4 Aug 10	£125.81
0.25........	£1,500,000.00	29 Jul 10	4 Aug 10	£61.64
0.25........	£2,616,000.00	29 Jul 10	5 Aug 10	£125.42
0.25.........	£2,367,000.00	30 Jul 10	12 Aug 10	£210.76
0.25........	£2,471,000.00	30 Jul 10	13 Aug 10	£236.95
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	2 Aug 10	6 Aug 10	£27.40
0.25........	£2,900,000.00	2 Aug 10	18 Aug 10	£317.81
0.25........	£1,932,000.00	2 Aug 10	20 Aug 10	£238.19
0.25........	£5,000,000.00	3 Aug 10	20 Aug 10	£582.19
0.25........	£2,438,000.00	3 Aug 10	23 Aug 10	£333.97
0.25........	£1,153,000.00	4 Aug 10	23 Aug 10	£150.05
0.25........	£1,393,000.00	5 Aug 10	6 Aug 10	£9.54
0.25........	£1,500,000.00	16 Aug 10	17 Aug 10	£10.27
0.25........	£3,058,000.00	16 Aug 10	24 Aug 10	£167.56
0.25........	£2,372,000.00	18 Aug 10	24 Aug 10	£97.48
0.25........	£5,026,000.00	19 Aug 10	24 Aug 10	£172.12
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	20 Aug 10	26 Aug 10	£41.10
0.25........	£1,354,000.00	20 Aug 10	27 Aug 10	£64.92
0.25........	£3,000,000.00	23 Aug 10	25 Aug 10	£41.10
0.25........	£8,769,000.00	23 Aug 10	27 Aug 10	£240.25
0.25........	£1,500,000.00	25 Aug 10	26 Aug 10	£10.27
0.25........	£1,858,000.00	25 Aug 10	2 Sep 10	£101.81
0.25........	£1,205,000.00	25 Aug 10	3 Sep 10	£74.28
0.25........	£6,345,000.00	27 Aug 10	31 Aug 10	£173.84
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	31 Aug 10	2 Sep 10	£13.70
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	31 Aug 10	3 Sep 10	£41.10
0.25........	£5,733,000.00	31 Aug 10	6 Sep 10	£235.60
0.25........	£1,307,000.00	1 Sep 10	7 Sep 10	£53.71
0.25........	£6,000,000.00	1 Sep 10	9 Sep 10	£328.77
0.25........	£6,000,000.00	1 Sep 10	10 Sep 10	£369.86
0.25........	£1,009,000.00	2 Sep 10	3 Sep 10	£6.91
0.25........	£1,360,000.00	3 Sep 10	9 Sep 10	£55.89
0.25........	£3,450,000.00	6 Sep 10	14 Sep 10	£189.04
0.25........	£1,122,000.00	7 Sep 10	13 Sep 10	£46.11
0.25........	£3,227,000.00	9 Sep 10	16 Sep 10	£154.72
0.25........	£4,584,000.00	10 Sep 10	20 Sep 10	£313.97
0.25........	£636,000.00	13 Sep 10	21 Sep 10	£34.85
0.25........	£5,936,000.00	14 Sep 10	21 Sep 10	£284.60
0.25........	£1,615,000.00	15 Sep 10	23 Sep 10	£88.49
0.25........	£9,800,000.00	15 Sep 10	24 Sep 10	£604.11
0.25........	£2,898,000.00	16 Sep 10	27 Sep 10	£218.34
0.25........	£2,866,000.00	17 Sep 10	27 Sep 10	£196.30
0.25........	£3,892,000.00	20 Sep 10	1 Oct 10	£293.23
0.25........	£8,701,000.00	21 Sep 10	5 Oct 10	£834.34
0.25........	£4,960,000.00	22 Sep 10	7 Oct 10	£509.59
0.25........	£2,838,000.00	24 Sep 10	8 Oct 10	£272.14
0.25........	£622,000.00	27 Sep 10	13 Oct 10	£68.16
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	28 Sep 10	29 Sep 10	£13.70
0.25........	.£2,323,000.00	28 Sep 10	8 Oct 10	£159.11
0.25........	£3,500,000.00	30 Sep 10	11 Oct 10	£263.70
0.25........	£1,500,000.00	30 Sep 10	14 Oct 10	£143.84
0.25........	£2,600,000.00	30 Sep 10	18 Oct 10	£320.55
0.25........	£4,700,000.00	30 Sep 10	20 Oct 10	£643.84
0.25........	£3,200,000.00	30 Sep 10	21 Oct 10	£460.27
0.25........	£8,200,000.00	30 Sep 10	22 Oct 10	£1,235.62
0.25........	£6,500,000.00	30 Sep 10	25 Oct 10	£1,113.01
0.25........	£1,284,000.00	30 Sep 10	27 Oct 10	£237.45
0.25........	£6,536,000.00	1 Oct 10	27 Oct 10	£1,163.95
0.25........	£2,500,000.00	1 Oct 10	28 Oct 10	£462.33
0.25........	£1,500,000.00	1 Oct 10	29 Oct 10	£287.67
0.25........	£4,390,000.00	4 Oct 10	20 Oct 10	£481.10
0.25........	£1,512,000.00	7 Oct 10	1 Nov 10	£258.90
0.25........	£5,035,000.00	8 Oct 10	11 Oct 10	£103.46
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	11 Oct 10	12 Oct 10	£6.85
0.25........	£4,490,000.00	11 Oct 10	13 Oct 10	£61.51
0.25........	£725,000.00	12 Oct 10	22 Oct 10	£49.66
0.25........	£9,000,000.00	15 Oct 10	18 Oct 10	£184.93
0.25........	£1,805,000.00	15 Oct 10	18 Oct 10	£37.09
0.25........	£4,484,000.00	19 Oct 10	25 Oct 10	£184.27
0.25........	£4,500,000.00	19 Oct 10	27 Oct 10	£246.58
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	20 Oct 10	25 Oct 10	£68.49
0.25........	£2,088,000.00	20 Oct 10	1 Nov 10	£171.62
0.25........	£5,000,000.00	20 Oct 10	5 Nov 10	£547.95
0.25........	£1,775,000.00	22 Oct 10	25 Oct 10	£36.47
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	25 Oct 10	8 Nov 10	£95.89
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	25 Oct 10	9 Nov 10	£102.74
0.25........	£1,623,000.00	25 Oct 10	11 Nov 10	£188.98
0.25........	£4,000,000.00	25 Oct 10	26 Oct 10	£27.40
0.25........	£3,776,000.00	26 Oct 10	27 Oct 10	£25.86
0.25........	£5,231,000.00	27 Oct 10	28 Oct 10	£35.83
0.25........	£1,600,000.00	28 Oct 10	1 Nov 10	£43.84
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	28 Oct 10	2 Nov 10	£34.25
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	28 Oct 10	12 Nov 10	£102.74
0.25........	£4,188,000.00	28 Oct 10	16 Nov 10	£545.01
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	29 Oct 10	17 Nov 10	£130.14
0.25........	£3,707,000.00	29 Oct 10	18 Nov 10	£507.81
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	29 Oct 10	23 Nov 10	£171.23
0.25........	£4,000,000.00	1 Nov 10	2 Nov 10	£27.40
0.25........	£5,687,000.00	1 Nov 10	8 Nov 10	£272.66
0.25........	£5,226,000.00	2 Nov 10	5 Nov 10	£107.38
0.25........	£4,960,000.00	3 Nov 10	9 Nov 10	£203.84
0.25........	£3,270,000.00	4 Nov 10	18 Nov 10	£313.56
0.25........	£7,030,000.00	5 Nov 10	12 Nov 10	£337.05
0.25........	£7,249,000.00	8 Nov 10	16 Nov 10	£397.21
0.25........	£1,475,000.00	9 Nov 10	17 Nov 10	£80.82
0.25........	£1,055,000.00	10 Nov 10	22 Nov 10	£86.71
0.25........	£6,771,000.00	12 Nov 10	24 Nov 10	£556.52
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	15 Nov 10	23 Nov 10	£109.59
0.25........	£7,273,000.00	15 Nov 10	26 Nov 10	£547.97
0.25........	£2,440,000.00	16 Nov 10	25 Nov 10	£150.41
0.25........	£1,000,000.00	16 Nov 10	29 Nov 10	£89.04
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	16 Nov 10	2 Dec 10	£219.18
0.25........	£6,000,000.00	16 Nov 10	3 Dec 10	£698.63
0.25........	£2,754,000.00	17 Nov 10	24 Nov 10	£132.04
0.25........	£4,291,000.00	18 Nov 10	26 Nov 10	£235.12
0.25........	£1,586,000.00	23 Nov 10	2 Dec 10	£97.77
0.25........	£2,755,000.00	24 Nov 10	3 Dec 10	£169.83
0.25........	£802,000.00	25 Nov 10	6 Dec 10	£60.42
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	26 Nov 10	30 Nov 10	£54.79
0.25........	£1,500,000.00	26 Nov 10	7 Dec 10	£113.01
0.25........	£1,500,000.00	26 Nov 10	8 Dec 10	£123.29
0.25........	£1,500,000.00	26 Nov 10	9 Dec 10	£133.56
0.25........	£1,500,000.00	26 Nov 10	13 Dec 10	£174.66
0.25........	£1,339,000.00	26 Nov 10	14 Dec 10	£165.08
0.25........	£1,430,000.00	29 Nov 10	10 Dec 10	£107.74
0.25........	£1,973,000.00	30 Nov 10	14 Dec 10	£189.19
0.25........	£2,000,000.00	1 Dec 10	2 Dec 10	£13.70
0.25........	£5,000,000.00	1 Dec 10	16 Dec 10	£513.70
0.25........	£5,730,000.00	1 Dec 10	17 Dec 10	£627.95
0.25........	£2,965,000.00	2 Dec 10	13 Dec 10	£223.39
0.25........	£5,893,000.00	3 Dec 10	6 Dec 10	£121.09
0.25........	£3,472,000.00	6 Dec 10	7 Dec 10	£23.78
0.25........	£3,220,000.00	7 Dec 10	22 Dec 10	£330.82
0.25........	£1,828,000.00	8 Dec 10	20 Dec 10	£150.25
0.25........	£2,790,000.00	10 Dec 10	22 Dec 10	£229.32
0.25........	£1,756,000.00	13 Dec 10	22 Dec 10	£108.25
0.25........	£4,938,000.00	14 Dec 10	23 Dec 10	£304.40
	£708,511,000.00			£48,137.54	.

City council still being deliberately misleading over its finances.

  Trying to get at the truth from this Common Purpose city council is a neverending nightmare. I don't think there's an honest senior officer in the entire financial department, and it's a depressing thing to have to point out.

  We here at England First, Stoke division have been trying to fathom the murky depths of the city councils finances so we can see exactly what is being done with your money, but as usual, they are being their usual deceitful selves in trying to mask what's really going on from you and the other taxpayers of this city.

  I'll give you an example of what I mean.

  My mate Sam put two straightforward questions to the city council in the form of a Freedom of Information request;

 1) What are the total deposits at present?

 2) What is the total cumulative total for deposits made in 2010?

   Two simple, straightforward questions. Here's the answer he received
 

      Total outstanding deposits at present (21/01/11)

     Debt Management Office.......................................... £41,857,000
     On call accounts........................................................£49,288,000


   Total Deposits at present..............................................£91,145,000.

  They've only answered the one question, and according to the DMO office itself, as of Dec 14th, just two months ago, the deposits held were £25.26 million, so where has this extra £16.5 million come from?

 Why is the "on call" money invested in these accounts? The only people making any money from the interest is the bloody government, because the city council only gets 0.25% interest on the money that gtoes in to these accounts!

  Sam's second question asked what the total investment was for 2010, and the city council have made no attempt to answer that at all, possibly because the governments DMO told us that total investments from Dec 09 to Dec 10, were £708,511,000!

  One more thing. The £25.26 million that was in the account on the 14th Dec, 2010, had earned a cumulative interest figure of just £1,446.41, less than £1500 for a £25 million investment!! At this rate, the £708 million the city council invested would get us an interest return of £420,000!

  There appears to be money everywhere, but very little that the council will admit to having. They seem to forget that this money belongs to you, not them, so perhaps you should remind them of this come election time.

  contact us at; efpstoke@gmail.com